Gonzaga Won’t and Shouldn’t be #1

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By now, I am sure most of you have heard the Minnesota Golden Gophers beat the #1 Indiana Hoosiers, last night at Williams Arena in Minneapolis. This has fans in Spokane getting really excited at the chance at having that “#1″ next to Gonzaga in Monday’s rankings. I am here to tell you Gonzaga not only doesn’t deserve to have the top ranking, but they won’t be sitting on top come Monday.

Let’s first start with the last time Indiana lost as the top ranked team in the land. They lost at Illinois, 74-72  and won at Ohio State, 81-68, before the next poll came out. At the time they held 58 of the 65 first place Associated Press votes. After the loss, there was a four-way split for the first place votes between Indiana (26), Duke (20), Miami (17) and Gonzaga (2). This will most likely be the case again. With Indiana holding all but one (Gonzaga) of the AP first place votes in the current poll. The votes will again be split between multiple teams come Monday, which will likely include: Indiana, Read the rest of this entry »


Battle Tuesday: Should Hawks Trade for Dwayne Bowe?

Who has two thumbs and is a hot topic in Seattle? Thiisssss guuuuyyyy!

BEN:

The Seahawks should definitely trade for Dwayne Bowe. The type of production he has produced in his career puts Sidney Rice’s numbers to shame. Let’s all take a second to remember how excited we were for Rice show up to the VMAC. This a guy that has almost put up twice as much production as Rice.

Let’s face it Golden Tate is not an outside receiver. Getting another big receiver opposite of Sidney Rice can push Tate inside which would be a better fit for him. Braylon Edwards is fine for jump balls, but he is not an every down receiver. As long as the Seahawks don’t trade anything above a third round pick, I would be happy with the trade. Considering Brandon Marshall has been traded for two second round picks and two third round picks in the last two years, a third round pick isn’t too much to ask for a receiver that has put up similar numbers. Marshall has averaged 5.5 receptions, 70.6 yards and .39 TDs per game. Bowe is at 4.8 rec, 66.1 yards and .48 TDs per game.

Bowe has thrived with a below average quarterback in Matt Cassell. Seattle has a below average quarterback in Russell Wilson, and having a receiver that can truely force the defense to respect the long ball, will only open up things for Tate, Baldwin and Rice underneath. One thing Tate and Baldwin have shown is that they aren’t easily taken down in the open field. Getting Bowe will it make it that much easier for those two to find the space needed to produce YAC.

How did Dwayne Bowe do last time he played in Seattle? Hella touchdowns, three to be exact. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images)

At this point it can’t hurt to add him. Ben Obomanu, Tate and Edwards aren’t who we want as an outside receiver. A guy who has played in all 16 games every season of his career except in 2009 and is good for a thousand plus yards is more than we have now, including Rice.

The trade deadline keeps getting moved back, it’s like the NFL wants the Seahawks to get Dwayne Bowe. Especially, with a growing list of injured receivers. Charly Martin makes me smile with effort, but do I want him playing every down? No.

There is nothing but positives with Bowe coming to the Hawks. Well, maybe not, according to Brad.

BRAD:

With the starting of Russell Wilson in Week 1 – this team has already resigned itself to some sort of “growth, continue to rebuild” mode despite the performance of the defense so far this year.

With that being said and this teams desire to try out reclamation projects or build through the draft, I would rather see the pick saved to bring in a wide receiver that is young and can grow with Russell Wilson over the next few years.

This year’s upcoming draft has quite a few intriguing prospects in the first round that I would rather see in a Hawks uniform than Dwayne Bowe.  The best part is, most of these guys already play in the Pacific Time Zone so you can see them for yourself – and that is Robert Woods and Keenan Allen.

Robert Woods, Superman

Isn’t this cute, Robert Woods is also superman. (Photo Credit, Benjamin Reed)

Either one of these guys should be available by the time the Hawks pick, which to my approximation if they keep playing like they are will be near or right at the top half of the draft.  Draft one of these guys, and save that third round pick for some of the best picks that the Schneider is known for, which is mid-round talent.  I think the value that they can find there, with the scouting they do, will end up being worth more than a Dwayne Bowe in what is becoming a lost season.  I would gladly take another Bobby Wagner or Robert Turbin.

However, this could blow up in my face when Seattle has the 16th pick next year and they draft some guy that nobody has heard of because the word is that the 49ers are scouting them.   Then I guess we settle on Marquess Wilson in the 3rd, right?  That’s not so bad either.


A Catch or Not a Catch, That is the Question

Struggle in the end zone during the Seattle Green Bay Game

We award the rouge to Edmonton! – photo courtesy of Jon Lok, Seattle Times

It all came down to one play last night in Seattle for the Seahawks and the Packers. Golden Tate came down with the game-winning touchdown pass, that is according to the referees. Packers fans will swear that M.D. Jennings had the interception. The play has created quite a controversy across the nation. Both players had hands on the ball and replays don’t really show anything definitive or do they? The NFL rule states that simultaneous catch always goes to the receiver, but was this a simultaneous catch? That is the question and the guys here at No Fair Weather Fans weigh in with their opinions of the catch, the referees and the game.

Ben Kelley

First, let me say I am glad the Seahawks got the win. I am going to completely ignore the blatant offensive pass interference, that happens on every Hail Mary on both teams. I want to actually analyze the catch. There are a few angles that look like a simultaneous catch. There is an angle that looks like it’s from the near front pylon. You can see Golden Tate’s right arm comes off the ball. Jennings maintains two hands on the ball the entire time. You can’t ignore the fact that Tate got two hands on the ball at the same time, but he doesn’t maintain two hands on it. The other point of view I have heard is Tate, had two feet down and two hands on the ball before Jennings. If you were to ask me to make a call one way or the other and I had to pick one, I would have to say interception.

The game shouldn’t have even come down to a last throw. That play shouldn’t have happened. There was a pass interference call on Kam Chancellor on Green Bay’s go-ahead drive that shouldn’t have been called. The call extended a Packers drive that should have been stalled, getting Green Bay a field goal at best. Not to mention Aaron Rogers coming up short of a third down later that drive and the call being overturned to give the Packers a first down. They were sending in the field goal unit before Mike McCarthy challenged the call. Seattle could have been kicking a game winning field goal in a 9-7 game instead of throwing to the endzone in a 12-7 game.

Seattle got bailed out earlier a couple of times, as well. There was a roughing the passer call that reversed an interception thrown by Russell Wilson. The pass interference call against the Packers on a long pass to Sidney Rice on 1st and 30 was more offensive PI than defensive. There was a no call on a PI by Charles Woodson on Evan Moore on the last drive, as well. Needless to say, this was a poorly officiated game all around.

Last thing, M.D. Jennings will never try to make an interception on a Hail Mary, again. Just knock it down, dude. Go Hawks!

Brad Dobbs

After having some time to cool down on this a little bit, I don’t think this is even about a touchdown, a game “taken away” from Green Bay or Golden Tate’s inability to remember that he pushed off before he “caught” the ball.

This is the catalyst that the national media needed to elevate the discussions about the refs to a point where it just makes Goodell and team look like they don’t care about the product that they are putting on the field.  Plain and simple.

The image of one ref holding up a touchdown and the other signaling touchback is the image that will be the rally cry of coaches, players and fans to get the NFL to the table and negotiating for real.  Many times, there are symbolic events that happen that in themselves are the catalyst for larger things, like Mr. Ed Hochuli getting a pension plan for his Sunday’s work on top of being a lawyer.

In the end, I am not going to argue a judgment call made by these guys, just like I wouldn’t if these were “real” refs.

The angles I saw, I think Golden’s left arm was inside the play, between the ball and the chest of the defender.  He also came down first with two feet, and the defender landed on him.  In my opinion, M.D. Jennings won a jumping contest.  However, I can see it going the exact other way depending on which replay you saw on ESPN.

Like I said in the beginning though, this is what the national media needed to point a giant middle finger at Goodell.  Will he listen?  History says, probably not.

Ryan Johne

Frankly, I’m sad that the spotlight is on the officiating and not somewhere else.  In the first half, the Seattle defense had EIGHT sacks and only allowed 82 yards of offense against the best Quarterback on the planet.  Doesn’t that deserve more than a footnote?

The spotlight could also be on this year’s tame Green Bay offense.  The Packers average 19 points per game this year.  They averaged 35 points per game during the regular season last year, while their personnel hasn’t changed much.  Isn’t that worth discussing?

However, the entire nation is killing Roger Goodell with his fake referees, and petitioning that Green Bay be awarded the win.

Sure, it was a bad call.  We all saw two referees standing over the pile giving differing signals…but there were a myriad of bad calls – some for Seattle, some for Green Bay.  That being said, bad calls are part of the game.  Super Bowl XL had a number of terrible calls (with “real” referees), but Seattle was forced to swallow that bowling ball of a loss.

Seattle fans should not be apologizing, just as Pittsburgh fans should not apologize (as if they were going to, anyway) for Super Bowl XL.  Instead, the NFL needs to decide if they want a product that possesses integrity, or a product that emulates a circus.  Given last night’s game, as well as the entire 3rd week of this young season, they’re dangerously close to the latter.

Skip Bayless called this play “the worst robbery in Seattle since the Sonics moved to OKC.”  Although funny (and somewhat bitter), I think the Sporting Gods are finally smiling on Seattle.  This was no robbery.  Seattle put themselves in a position to win at the end with superb defense and just enough offense to make it happen.  It’s too bad it happened like that, but a win is a win.


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