Ok – so the relocation committee is going to recommend against the Hansen/Ballmer/Nordstrom (HBN) group moving the Kings upon them purchasing the team?
It’s now time for the good guy to become the bad guy. If he wants to play the NBA way, I am going to lay out the steps below and possible outcomes from the chain of events.
- Immediately raise purchase price of controlling interest of the Kings another $120 million dollars.
- There are theories floating out there that while the HBN offer was more than Sacramento’s in terms of straight up dollars for dollars (then accounting for debts held by the Maloofs that needed to be paid back to the city or something to that effect brought the two offers to basically dead even), it’s now time for Steve Ballmer to open the checkbook again and make the offer basically too good for the Maloofs to refuse. This would immediately make the offers not even in the same territory. Other owners will see this and basically can’t refuse someone who wants to pay that much for a franchise. (Not even 100% of a franchise, I might add)
- Drop the relocation bid, but keep purchase in play.
- This sounds counter-intuitive, but it is time for some dirty poker. Keep the land use permit application going, but change it to a large outdoor mall in the footprint of the purchased land. Draw up the sketches and put them in the press. It is going to take time to knock down these buildings anyways to clear room, so “work” can technically start.
- Immediately draw up plans for a $600+ million dollar publicly funded arena in the Railyards location in Sacramento.
- This is an immediate flash-bang (COD style) right in the middle of Sacramento. The city is debating the location of the arena in their plan (still) and there are supporters for the downtown Sac site, as well as the railyards which has come up a few times.
- The dollar amount immediately launches this into the “can’t or won’t” get done territory. It doesn’t matter, HBN is going through the motions anyways and can recant all of the Sonics arena talk that they have had going so far. The leaked OKC emails didn’t stop this from happening so a flagrant website and movement for 2+ years can be easily forgotten in the eyes on the owners.
- 100% publicly funded – that’s what the owners like, right?
- Appeal to the state of California for this arena funding, and try to get a state tax to pay for the Sacramento arena.
- This is such an insane non-starter, but it takes a page out of the Bennett playbook, who went to Olympia with Stern and wonder why they got shot down. Plus, I am sure LA voters and SF voters would love paying for a stadium for an opposing team. But hey, they are trying, right?
- This plays into the first, but since larger investments were made in team acquisition, no private funds from HBN can be used.
- HBN is already tied up in several real estate deals in the Pacific Northwest, and with the large purchase price of the team, this is the only way that they can stay competitive in the market is to get a publicly funded stadium only.
- Immediately not honor any progress made by the former competing ownership group with regards to the Sacramento Downtown Arena
- HBN wants to enter their own agreements, and “explore” other taxable revenue streams that they think are more sustainable than a parking tax.
- This isn’t true, but it again puts the public at odds with regards to financing and tax revenues to be used.
- HBN wants to enter their own agreements, and “explore” other taxable revenue streams that they think are more sustainable than a parking tax.
I think the above is tenable for probably a year. The Kings will be playing a known lame-duck season in Sactown (at least in the eyes of the fans, but HBN is “trying”) in which attendance drops, team support withers which makes all of the above that much harder to get anything done. Soon, HBN won’t be able to run their franchise the way they would like and relocation will have to be done to save the franchise.
If you haven’t noticed, this blueprint was used in Seattle in 2008. Is it fair? No. Does Sacramento take it in the ass? Yeah. Does Seattle/HBN do what they said they wouldn’t? Yes.
Pretty ridiculous, isn’t it?
Stern, if your meddling is going to block this move, approve expansion. Now. Your legacy means so much to you, this is how you save it.
All these upsets are making this tournament fun! Relax, everyone’s brackets are wrecked. Dunk U. (FGCU) has won everyone’s heart, not Hart. Mike Hart and the Zags are out, much to the pleasure of Ben. The Mariners made a few moves and we are torn on whether they are good or not. Watch out of all the innuendos!
Other topics touched on:
- Hansen swoops another 7% on the Kings.
- Heat streak is stopped at 27.
- USA soccer win in the snow and “win” a point in Mexico.
Is there really much else to talk about? The Hawks pulled a big time trade yesterday and brought in one of the most electric offensive players in the game today. Did they give up too much? Is he injury prone? Does this limit the Hawks in other ways?
In this episode, Ben and Brad from NoFairWeatherFans.com discuss, and also bring in special analyst RJ to close it out on this nearly power hour.
Other topics discussed are:
- Sonics open season ticket sign ups on SonicsArena.com
- NHL Expansion & Chatter
- Pac-12 Tournament Time
So in the true spirit of a power hour, pick up your 18 pack, a shot glass – take a hit every minute and enjoy this sports broadcast.
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Big deals were being made all over the place. Felix got signed to a seven year deal worth $175M, the Kings are making trades to dump salary, and Gonzaga is making themselves a big deal in college basketball. The guys get down on more randomness and plant the seed for an event for all you listeners to get down on a prize. Find out what it is, as well as enjoying the randomness that is No Fair Weather Fans.
At first there was 2, and then there was 3. We had a slight scare on the podcast during this recording, as RJ was signed into Skype, but not answering the call. He was also mysteriously ignoring his cell phone. Turns out, his Android phone died (surprise, surprise) and he was afraid to hit the “join call” button. Alas, he did and was immediately caught up in the fun that was the No Fair Weather Fans podcast.
The hard-hitting subjects this week were -
- NFL Pro Bowl and the Hawks that are in it
- The Saga that is the Sacramento Kings Sale
- The return of the National Hockey League
- Then RJ gets on the podcast
Hopefully after all those hard-hitting subjects you aren’t battered to sports death with all the knowledge bombs. My guess, probably not – but hey!
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So the band got together last night to discuss this weeks news. We checked Twitter, called each other on Skype and everything checked out. There was a red flag that RJ didn’t upload a Skype avatar, but in the sake of getting the podcast done on a deadline, I decided to not dig into it.
Tons of subjects last night, going from
- The Kings coming to Seattle
- Coaching Carousel in the NFL
- The return of the NHL
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Best Sports Moment of 2012 – I am an unabashed Mariners fan. If you go back and look at my posts, most of them are baseball related. Usually, they are in a negative tone, only because I want these guys to do something to support the biggest moment in 2012 for Seattle sports, and arguably one of the greatest individual performances by a Seattle sports athlete.
It really seems to me that it was only a matter of time before Felix strung a game together where he would no-hit someone. He has come close several times, and when he is on – you just get this feeling that he could literally get every hitter to ground out to the shortstop. That would be a good strategy too, as Brendan Ryan really is only good at one thing.
Finally, Felix would get his game. To put the icing on the cake, he also didn’t walk anyone.
I caught wind of the perfect around the 6th inning. I am not one of those superstitious guys, so I didn’t put any stock that Dave Sims for the most part mentions no-no’s after the top of the first inning. I fired up the live stream and had it going on my second monitor at work.
If anything, I hope this isn’t the only time we see him #Felixing in a Seattle uniform. I want the moment in 2013 to be him pitching game 7 of the World Series, but one can only dream.
Worst Sports Moment in 2012 – For me, this isn’t any one moment during the course of the NFL season, but the absolute neutering of the game with regards to hits as a collection of just dumb, game-changing calls. Insane emphasis of inadvertent hits to QB’s heads, “defenseless players”, crackdowns on crack-back blocks are leaving defenses no choice but to either let offensive players go for additional yards, or make equally as dangerous hits on hips & knees.
We all know what this is really about, and while it is an attempt to make the game safer for the brains that sit between the Seahawk and 49ers logos, it really is a CYA operation by the NFL to attempt to avert more law suits. Refs err on the side of guilt when it comes to bang-bang plays that happen in a fraction of a second. Even if you do it right, you get the flag. The only way the NFL validates that they may not have agreed with the call on the field is that they don’t send the check to the players locker on Tuesday. It’s a huge problem that needs to be addressed, but as long as Goodell is in charge, I don’t expect any change.
Biggest Surprise in 2012 – This one is easy for me, and that is how amazing the 2012 draft was for the Seahawks. Sure, Russell Wilson would be the biggest surprise in the draft in general I would think, but let’s look at the rest of these picks.
- Bruce Irvin at 15 – I will admit, this pick set me off in a fit of rage at the time. Only Seattle would pick a guy that nobody really had graded in the first round and then take him at 15. Of course, you hear later that other teams were going to take him late in the first, but it seemed like a reach. However, Irvin has had a fairly successful rookie campaign with 8 sacks in pretty limited use and playing time. He develops a few more moves and this guy is going to be lethal.
- Bobby Wagner at 47 – Lofa who? New rookie middle linebacker for Seattle should anchor this defense for years to come.
- Russell Wilson at 75 – This one is easy. When it is all said and done, he may be one of the most successful QB’s of this draft class which included RG3 and Andrew Luck.
- Robert Turbin at 106 – Legitimate backup to Beast – this guy is going to be good learning behind one of the best. He is also capable of catching the ball (kinda) and his versatility is nice.
- Jaye Howard 114 – Not sure what his story is. Never heard his name called.
- Kory Toomer at 154 – I think he got some PT in special teams. His name looks familiar, but that might be because he played for Idaho.
- Jeremy Lane at 172 – Lose a few CB’s from PED’s, injury, and don’t really lose a step. Contributed more than anyone could have imagined for a 6th rounder taken this year on an elite defense.
- JR Sweezy at 225 – Draft a DL, move him to OG, start on the line and for the most part beat out a second rounder from the year before. Only Carroll and Schneider can do this and not lose their jobs it seems like.
- Greg Scruggs at 232 – Got 2 sacks this year, played a little bit at DE. Not bad at all for Seattle’s Mr. Irrelevant.
6 guys from this draft made real contributions this year, as well as developing the core of this team for the foreseeable future. What a crazy good draft.
Best Sports Moment – I am not a guy who follows politics at all. Hell, I haven’t voted since ‘Nam, minus school levies. The Sonics’ arena brought me out for multiple town hall meetings and brought me to the point where I would actually vote. Granted, I would have just voted for whoever voted against passing the arena. Luckily for them, I didn’t have to vote for some random person and luckily for all of us, they passed the arena. With the Sonics gone, like lot of people, I lost a lot of the interest I once had in the NBA.
Chris Hansen and his crew of rich dudes put up the money and backed up the plan for the arena with hella facts. Every time those a-holes down at the port came up with some cockamamie bull honky excuse why we shouldn’t bring back Seattle’s most successful franchise, Hansen dropped fact bombs all over them. These fact bombs proved to be enough to get the politicians to pass the arena plan. Now, we have real hope of being back not only the Sonics, but an NHL teams. This brings me back to the worst of 2012.
Worst Sports Moment – The NHL lockout has comeback again! I don’t get why the owners and players can’t figure out a way to both be rich. The pettiness, over what seems to be a relatively small gap in differences, is killing the sport. I have grown to be a huge hockey fan. There is no other sport’s playoffs that are more exciting. Every shift, every trip down the ice and every shot taken can be the turning point in a game. These already loaded players and owners are blowing it for all hockey fans. Thanks a lot douches, you ruined my Monday through Fridays this fall.
Most Surprising Moment – Matt Flynn not starting was a complete shock to me. This is a guy who has averaged 450 yards and more than four TDs a game. How can Pete Carroll not march him out and get easy wins against the Cardinals and Rams instead of taking losses over crap squads? The Seahawks gave $26 million to Flynn (who is a fan of LTD in Ballard). Everyone knows money talks, just ask Chris Tucker and Charlie Sheen. They guy making bank needs to starting. Well, it turns that isn’t how you com-PETE for the Seahawks.
In other words, I am completely surprise how well Russell Wilson played when his number was called. He wasn’t asked to put the team on his back, but he was asked to produce and he has done so more than I would have ever expected. Considering, in the first half of the season I said he was basically Tarvaris Jackson. At that point his stats said he was. Wilson turned it on in the second half of the season. He got a defense and run heavy team, that needed a decent contributed at QB, what they needed and more.
Ryan’s Best Sports Moment: Two words – APPLE CUP. There’s nothing better than a comeback win against a rival. The way the Cougs tore up the 4th quarter on that fateful Saturday is just a preview of next year. Not many teams can put up 18 points in ten minutes, but that’s exactly what Mike Leach’s offense is built for.
Putting all pride aside, I’d also like to thank Keith Price for his ”head bob” that cost UW a false start, and Travis Coons for his wide-right chip shot as time expired.
Also, it’s about time Mike Leach and his team got a win in a meaningful game…which brings me to my next point…
Ryan’s Worst Sports Moment: EVERY OTHER COUG GAME. It seems every week of last season was a different kind of heart-break, but heart-break, nonetheless.
As the season started against BYU, hopes were high. The Cougs got handled in a no-contest type of game. After a few garbage wins against lesser teams, the Cougs gave up a 17 point lead in the 4th quarter to the Colorado Bufs. That heart-break was a nauseating one. A few weeks later (after a few more losses), the Cougs were rolled 49-6 by a mediocre (at best) Utah team. That heart-break was an embarrassing one. In fact, if you look at photos of Brad’s wedding (which took place on the same day), you’ll see how red my face was…maybe that was the beer - I’m not positive. Then, finally the UCLA game. At halftime, the score was 37-7 in favor of the Bruins. It was looking eerily similar to the Utah game. But the Cougs came all the way back, falling just short thanks to Halliday throwing a pick in the end zone. That heart-break invoked tears.
However, as this was going on with my Cougars, a completely different feeling filled my body on Sundays…
Ryan’s Most Surprising Sports Moment: No, I’m not talking about the spirit of GOD, mostly because I usually don’t go to church during the football season (conflicting schedules). This other feeling was elation, as the improbable rookie, Russell Wilson, lead the Seahawks to a playoff berth and an 11-win season. As he was picked in the 3rd round, no one in the country thought Russell Wilson would start for Seattle this year, especially as the Seahawks signed Matt Flynn to a big-ish contract in the off-season. It seems as though Flynn has found himself in yet another solid backup role. The way Russell Wilson started the year, I figured Matt Flynn would be in by week 5. But Pete Carroll stuck by Wilson, and it looks like it paid off.
Wilson did have his struggles against Miami and San Francisco (the 1st time around), but he led the team to five wins in a row (and 7 of the last 8) at the end of the season. He’s certainly been a pleasant surprise as he now fights for the honors of Rookie of the Year against RGIII. Regardless of the Rookie of the Year outcome, Russell Wilson has cemented his QB spot with the Seahawks, and a place in the hearts of The 12th Man.
All signs are pointing to the return of the Supersonics to Seattle. Chris Hansen worked to get one of the best public/private arena deals done with the City of Seattle and King County. It just comes down to the two councils not changing their mind before voting yes at the formal vote within the next two weeks. This tentative agreement is a huge step toward bringing back the Sonics.
The deal that was already better than almost any other public/private arena deal in America was negotiated to being an even better deal for the city and county. This just shows how great of an owner Hansen has the potential to be. He has shown he is dedicated to Seattle and is willing to do whatever needs to be done to get this arena built and have a successful franchise. Council members have said that Hansen was fair in the negotiations and a pleasure to work with. This is a guy that has the passion of Mark Cuban, but without the drama that comes along with Cuban. No knock on Cuban, he is the best owner in basketball a fan can have. However, we are getting a better version of Mark Cuban. You couldn’t ask for more as a fan.
Now, let’s start the dreaming. Which team do we want? A recent Forbes article gives a breakdown of the possible teams that could be purchased and brought to Seattle. Don’t let your dreams stop at these teams. Let your dreams take you farther. Imagine a team like the Miami Heat or L.A. Lakers as your team. A team that has stars like LeBron, Derrick Rose or even Kevin Durant coming back to his rightful city.
Hansen is a fan running a basketball team. The things you dream, he dreams. The future is such a big fan, he is throwing a celebration down at F.X. McRory’s from 5-7 pm. A celebration where he will be buying everyone’s first beer! Have you ever heard of an owner doing something like that? That is a dream come true in itself.
NBA Championships, MVP’s, running the Lakers into the ground, Kevin Calabro making you laugh and go wild at the same time are all dreams we have. The pieces are falling into place for these dreams to come to come true.
So, Sonics fans start dreaming, because all your dreams are about to start coming true.
After weeks of announcements, town hall meetings, the Seattle Times having a clear bias when a newspaper should be completely objective, the King County Council voting yes and the Seattle City Council getting its negotiating on with Chris Hansen about the new Seattle Arena that will feature the NBA and NHL, I have decided to start thinking ahead. I am confident that the Seattle City Council won’t blow this. Chris Hansen has been very fair and he will do what it takes to help out with the council’s hangups. This can be chalked up to a win for Sonics fans.
With this confidence, I have decided to start thinking about who would be the perfect coach for whichever team we end up bring to Seattle. I will let it be known, I am rooting for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Who would be the best fit for any team as a coach? The answer is simple, Stan Van Gundy.
Van Gundy is a straight shooter with upper management written all over him (this is an analysis that comes from the Bob’s, who are consultants in the movie Office Space). Find any interview that Stan “The Man” has done and you will see exactly what I am talking about. He answers questions with truth and a forwardness that you don’t get from a lot of other coaches. I am personally sick of the cliché answers that most coaches give. You know what I am talking about. In a typical coach interview, the back and forth goes something like this:
Interviewer: Coach, what happened in that third quarter?
Coach: We need to play better defense and offense.
Interviewer: What are you going to do to get (insert start player here) going?
Coach: Set more screens and get him the ball in the open floor.
These type of in-game, post-game or pre-game interviews are the biggest waste of time for any viewer. Even if you are just a casual sports fan, you know that these are the most bland and cliché answers ever. Some of this is on the interviewer. Enough with the softball questions, but that is a topic for another day. Everyone wants a coach to tell it how it really is. Let us know that Player A is sucking it up out there and that Player B is playing lazy.
Van Gundy is the kind of coach a passionate group of fans, like Supersonic fans, need. After being lied to by countless people in the last organization’s management group, we need someone to keep it real. Stan Van Gundy only knows how to keep it real. Go back and look at how the Dwight Howard situation went. Howard lied and put on a show, Van Gundy told it how it was. I have included an awesome interview that shows how awesome Van Gundy was and how Dwight was lame and childish.
Here are a few videos of Stan “The Man” Van Gundy.
First of all, STAT CORRECT, Ben: Ichiro has just over 2,500 hits in the MLB as of August 3rd (2,542, to be exact). Not 2,993 or whatever you claimed… In his entire professional career he has 3,820 hits, which includes his Japan League days (1,278 hits)…That’s actually pretty impressive…
Don’t be wrong if you don’t want to get corrected, Brad…
Since the sports world is pretty quiet with the obvious exception of the Olympiad, here is an addition to the latest podcast; more specifically, here’s how this FRATERNITY BROTHER stands.
Penn State Punishment:
Frankly, this amateur blogger is sick of discussing Penn State. What Sandusky did is dreadful, despicable, wicked (insert disdaining adjective here), plain and simple. The people directly involved with these crimes needed to be punished, have been punished, and will be punished. Here’s the issue – why is the NCAA punishing kids (who were barely out of diapers) and coaches (who were nowhere near PSU) for what a wrinkly old pervert did years ago?
If the NCAA wants to punish Penn State, they should – I’m okay with them getting involved. Fine the school. Make them forfeit TV profits to a children’s charity (I’d suggest Jim Mora’s “Count On Me Foundation”…side note: Highlight of my year – seeing Jim Mora Sr. IN PERSON talk about “PLAYOFFS?!?”). Basically, don’t punish guys like last year’s recruits for choosing an excellent program to hone their skills, learn the game, and hopefully grow up to be a contributing member of society. Ben and Brad made an excellent point when they mentioned Penn State’s graduation rate has been one of the best in years’ past. The NCAA should build on that aspect if they truly are concerned with the integrity of their organization.
Speaking of “integrity”…(working on my transitions)
I wish Ichiro the best; he’s put in his time in Seattle. As reported, Ichiro did request some sort of trade as the Mariners are clearly building for the future (how many years have the Mariners been building now?). I only wish the Mariners traded Ichiro sooner. It is a bit frustrating having to pay the Yankees along with only get a pair of pedestrian minor leaguers. A few years ago, the Mariners could have traded him for someone like Jose Bautista (BEFORE he started dropping bombs over Baghdad) or another solid starting pitcher like David Price or Cliff Lee…wait, never mind on the Cliff Lee deal…
In any case, good for Ichiro. He now has a chance to contend for a ring, and the Mariners have some cap space to continue building…off to Club Safeco!
While on the subject of “building”…
Not much to say much here. If you build it, they will come. Ben and Brad probably follow this more than I do. I’ve written to council members to express my support for the arena, so I feel like I’ve done my part.
While reading a bit about the proposal and listening to some expert analysis by the aforementioned duo, it sounds like arguments against the arena are diminishing.
One quick note: if an NHL team makes its way to the Great Northwest, this loyal blogger, you heard it here first, will purchase season tickets. Go Metropolitans!! I would say “Go Metros,” but people might get the wrong idea since we live in Seattle…
On a general point, this truant editor is looking forward to the upcoming PHFFL draft. Any plans on a Fantasy Football Preview podcast?