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NCAA Punishments for Violations Need Change

Chip and Pete

There have recently been reports of both Auburn University and the University of Oregon having major violations with their football teams.  This allows us to revisit the punishment of vacated wins and scholarships being lost for sports programs, due to that being the most likely disciplinary action that will be taken with these schools. Both vacated wins and loss of scholarships  are the most ridiculous punishments possible. Vacating wins doesn’t do anything, but put an asterisk next to a season in the record books. Let’s take the 2005 National Championship Game for example. USC beat the crap out of Oklahoma 55-19. Now, technically no one won that game. The problem is we all remember that game. To say no one won that game is crazy. Vacated wins does nothing except take a trophy out of a case. All the players, coaches, fans and media know who won.

As for loss of scholarship, all this does is hurt a bunch of kids who had nothing to do with any of the violations. It also creates a trickle down effect that affects a few kids at the bottom of the scholarship offers pool, not the kids that have the talent to play at a Oregon or Auburn. It affects kids who probably wouldn’t even have a chance to play at the large school receiving sanctions. Let’s take a look at that USC example again.

USC lost ten scholarships per year for three years for the violations of the 2004-2005 season. That is ten kids that could have played at the top program in the country. Now, they have to go to elsewhere. That takes ten spots from ten other schools at the same level or just a step down from USC, for example: Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State and others.

Those ten spots continue to trickle down and take roster spots for kids who would have ended up at schools like Memphis, UAB, and Central Michigan.  This effect will work its way down to the Montanas and Portland States of the world. Moving through all teams, regardless of division, that can offer a full football scholarship.

There is a finite amount of scholarships that can be offered throughout college football. There are under 7,000 scholarships to the 225 FBS and FCS schools and there are over one million high school football players trying to earn that potential financial aid for education. You take ten scholarships away you aren’t taking them from the Andrew Luck and RGIII’s of the world, players of that caliber will receive a scholarship no matter what. This type of punishment is taking a scholarship from the kid who starred at a 2A high school and was going to go to Portland State. His spot was filled by the falling talent that got bumped off the better team and fell to the next best team.

The NCAA says they are punishing the school, but realistically they are punishing future kids. Even with the bowl bans, they are just taking away opportunity for kids that had nothing to do with the violations. If a kid cheated on a test in his first period class, you wouldn’t take it out on the second period class. You need to punish the one responsible. Make players pay back scholarships. Fine coaches, even if they have already left the school. Make the school pay back money. The schools and coaches are the ones who made the millions off the success of the team, not the student-athletes.

The easiest way to deal with these situations is to fine the school large amounts. Let them play in bowls still, but don’t let them collect the bowl money. Take their cut and spread it out to other schools in their conference or across the country. This doesn’t take away kids’ educations and opportunity to have the same fortunes as other football players. The fine will also take away the pointless vacating wins thing (which by the way, they should vacate losses too). It will also be determined by how much the school benefited financially off those wins. Money is the main reason these violations happen. Attacking the deep pockets of these programs would definitely get the attention of those in charge.

Start taking away the money and change will happen.

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NFL Moneyball – Is the Tight End the Position to Exploit?

Note – this was written by Josh Deceuster, a friend of the blog, a friend of ours and all-around good guy.  You can find him on Twitter @joshmtd (give him a big follow) along with his work here on YouTube.  After I read his fanpost on The Daily Norsemen, I asked if he would want to do a version for the Hawks.

Billy Beane Meme


The biggest misconception I had about “Moneyball” was that I thought it was all about
money. I am not a baseball fan and hearing about it from friends and media always seemed like
a nice little story, but not something that would apply to football. The salary cap and spending
floor/ceiling would be enough to keep teams from trying a similar system in the NFL. Of
course, that was when I only saw Moneyball as a formula for spending money on your roster.
Moneyball is really about exploiting the market.

Everyone wanted to copy the Yankees, so the A’s exploited the player market to find
guys other teams were missing in their quest to duplicate successful franchises. The NFL also
has its fair share of copycats. Often many teams adjust their rosters trying to be like the most
recent Super Bowl winner or the hot team for the last few seasons. This creates similar market
conditions that Moneyball used to help the A’s, so now it is about finding where to exploit
said markets. Instead of thinking of the market solely as acquiring talent, let’s take a look at
exploiting how the roster to put together.

If the market is roster spots, the NFL is primed for a Moneyball-style takeover. Or at
least, prime for experimentation. Most NFL teams carry the same number of quarterbacks,
receivers, pass rushers, cornerbacks, etc. when making up their 52. The biggest shift on most
rosters depends on what your team’s defensive scheme or whether the GM likes having more
of a specific position on the roster. Receivers, however, are pretty uniform across the board.
Every team is looking for the same specific talents to play X, Z, & Y. This is where teams could
exploit the player market to their advantage.

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Cats & Dogs + The Six Pack – 10-27-12

First, get yourself a rundown of the latest Cats and Dogs in the CFL!  I think we are really onto something here.

Hear us on the Locker Room on Fox Sports 1380, where this was mostly about Luke Michener & the SPSL, in which Maury thinks about starting a Luke Michener segment.

If we aren’t starting segments or talking about Spanaway, it really wouldn’t be Cats & Dogs.

Then Brad gets depressed about Arizona, Ben stays optimistic no matter what (a true NoFairWeatherFan) and looking forward to Oregon State.  We love posting these after the fact, because you can see if we are any good at this.  Brad sure isn’t!

The guys on the Locker Room also let us on another segment, called the Six Pack before Cats & Dogs.  You should theoretically already know we were on that segment too because you listen all the time, but if you don’t – here’s that!  General sports!



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Battle Tuesday: Should Hawks Trade for Dwayne Bowe?

Who has two thumbs and is a hot topic in Seattle? Thiisssss guuuuyyyy!


The Seahawks should definitely trade for Dwayne Bowe. The type of production he has produced in his career puts Sidney Rice’s numbers to shame. Let’s all take a second to remember how excited we were for Rice show up to the VMAC. This a guy that has almost put up twice as much production as Rice.

Let’s face it Golden Tate is not an outside receiver. Getting another big receiver opposite of Sidney Rice can push Tate inside which would be a better fit for him. Braylon Edwards is fine for jump balls, but he is not an every down receiver. As long as the Seahawks don’t trade anything above a third round pick, I would be happy with the trade. Considering Brandon Marshall has been traded for two second round picks and two third round picks in the last two years, a third round pick isn’t too much to ask for a receiver that has put up similar numbers. Marshall has averaged 5.5 receptions, 70.6 yards and .39 TDs per game. Bowe is at 4.8 rec, 66.1 yards and .48 TDs per game.

Bowe has thrived with a below average quarterback in Matt Cassell. Seattle has a below average quarterback in Russell Wilson, and having a receiver that can truely force the defense to respect the long ball, will only open up things for Tate, Baldwin and Rice underneath. One thing Tate and Baldwin have shown is that they aren’t easily taken down in the open field. Getting Bowe will it make it that much easier for those two to find the space needed to produce YAC.

How did Dwayne Bowe do last time he played in Seattle? Hella touchdowns, three to be exact. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images)

At this point it can’t hurt to add him. Ben Obomanu, Tate and Edwards aren’t who we want as an outside receiver. A guy who has played in all 16 games every season of his career except in 2009 and is good for a thousand plus yards is more than we have now, including Rice.

The trade deadline keeps getting moved back, it’s like the NFL wants the Seahawks to get Dwayne Bowe. Especially, with a growing list of injured receivers. Charly Martin makes me smile with effort, but do I want him playing every down? No.

There is nothing but positives with Bowe coming to the Hawks. Well, maybe not, according to Brad.


With the starting of Russell Wilson in Week 1 – this team has already resigned itself to some sort of “growth, continue to rebuild” mode despite the performance of the defense so far this year.

With that being said and this teams desire to try out reclamation projects or build through the draft, I would rather see the pick saved to bring in a wide receiver that is young and can grow with Russell Wilson over the next few years.

This year’s upcoming draft has quite a few intriguing prospects in the first round that I would rather see in a Hawks uniform than Dwayne Bowe.  The best part is, most of these guys already play in the Pacific Time Zone so you can see them for yourself – and that is Robert Woods and Keenan Allen.

Robert Woods, Superman

Isn’t this cute, Robert Woods is also superman. (Photo Credit, Benjamin Reed)

Either one of these guys should be available by the time the Hawks pick, which to my approximation if they keep playing like they are will be near or right at the top half of the draft.  Draft one of these guys, and save that third round pick for some of the best picks that the Schneider is known for, which is mid-round talent.  I think the value that they can find there, with the scouting they do, will end up being worth more than a Dwayne Bowe in what is becoming a lost season.  I would gladly take another Bobby Wagner or Robert Turbin.

However, this could blow up in my face when Seattle has the 16th pick next year and they draft some guy that nobody has heard of because the word is that the 49ers are scouting them.   Then I guess we settle on Marquess Wilson in the 3rd, right?  That’s not so bad either.

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Cats & Dogs – 10-20-12

“Welcome to Paradise” on Cats & Dogs on the Locker Room on Fox Sports 1380.

CFL?  Tecate’s (pronounce it!)

Brad makes some excuses for red zone mistakes against USC, but then goes back to the well for a Dawg win in the desert.  Yeah – how did that go again?  Someone needs to bring him back to reality.

The Cougs are on the bye, so lets tell Alex Brink stories – who doesn’t love CFL’s Alex Brink?


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Cats & Dogs – 10-13-12

Leach calls out the radio show, or at least his own team as corpses on Cats & Dogs on the Locker Room on Fox Sports 1380.

In this show, Ben lets the realist Coug come out and prays for 6 wins, while an over-confident Brad feels a USC upset in the wings at CenturyLink.  How did that go?  Someone gets Brad’s number!

We will be back this coming Saturday, be sure to be listening live – but if you didn’t, you can subscribe at the top right or…


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Should Penn State Football Get Death Penalty? No.

A lot of people have been calling for the “death penalty” for the Penn State football program in response to how the school dealt with Jerry Sandusky child molestation case. There seems to be a clear coverup by a few of the top individuals at the school. Not just at the football level but the presidential level. According to the Louis Freeh report, a few individuals knew there was something going on and tried to keep it underwraps to maintain the image of the school. The decision of those people was completely wrong and dispicable but, letting the actions of a those few destroy the opportunity of thousands is what the death penalty would do.

This is not a violation of NCAA rules, it is a violation of the law. The justice system doesn’t impose the death penalty the NCAA does. The death penalty was put in place to punish frequent violators of NCAA rules. It essentially is a way of keeping power in the hands of the NCAA and not letting schools do whatever they want with no governing body. When Southern Methodist University was given the death penalty, they were blatantly violating NCAA rules even after being told to stop. Their football program was trying to be above the rules.

The Sandusky case isn’t in that same relm. This is an issue of a few individuals breaking the law. They should be punished by the justice system. They will receive jail time, as they should, for their what they did. Their actions didn’t affect the results on the field and players weren’t give special treatment for playing sports at the university. Their actions affected people’s lives in a more dramatic way. Reggie Bush didn’t get jail time for taking money at USC. Sandusky and the others involved should be sent to prison.

By shutting down the football program full of people that had nothing to do with the crimes commited, you will affect more than just the football team. Football generates enough money to support all sports at the school. Women’s tennis, men’s swimming, lacross and so on, will be hurt by such a dramatic punishment. There are people that rely on working at football games for income, plus all the local business that count on those weekends for their yearly revenue. Penn State’s Beaver Stadium holds 107,000 people, that is a lot people coming to a game. All those people would be affected in some way by the loss of the football team. All those people that had nothing to do with the coverup that involved Sandusky.

If you look at punishments given to schools in the past, you will see that people pay for the violations of others. Look at the USC Trojans this past season. The players and coaches weren’t allowed to play in a bowl, because of Reggie Bush and the coaching staff that was in place in 2004. I understand that the school needs to be held accountible to an extent, but how many people really knew what Reggie Bush was doing? So, you have an entire group of people that were probably in junior high or middle school or at other football programs that serve the punishment for others. If you are worried about the Penn State paying, they will. Civil lawsuits from the victims and their families will cost the university millions of dollars.

This is a time where the individuals that are guilty are being punished for their actions and future players, coaches and employees aren’t paying the price for the actions of others. I don’t think there is reason for the NCAA to step in and punish the school further. The guilty are receiving prison sentences and the school will lose money in lawsuits. Let the innocent learn from the actions of the guilty and go forward. Penn State needs to better itself and that starts with the people that are in charge now. Students, athletes, coaches, employees and the community don’t need to suffer more.

Ben Kelley


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